flip flop control

[Lookinggood]

I'm either going to take this or soul control to regionals in Jan. which should i take and can you make this any better? thx in advance


Creatures: 19

Chaos Sorcerer [2]
Cyber Dragon [2]
Mobius the Frost Monarch
Airknight Parshath

Magical Merchant [2]
Magician of Faith
D.D. Warrior Lady

Dekoichi the Battle Chanted Locomotive [2]
Mask of Darkness
Night Assailant
Tsukuyomi
Sangan
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Spirit Reaper [2]

Spells: 11

Dark Hole
Nobleman of Crossout
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial
Heavy Storm
Mystical Space Typhoon
Smashing Ground [2]
Swords of Revealing Light
Book of Moon
Monster Reincarnation

Traps: 10

Sakuretsu Armor [3]
Bottomless Trap Hole [2]
Trap Hole
Widespread Ruin
Call of the Haunted
Torrential Tribute
Time Seal

soul control
Monsters: 21

1 Gear Golem the Moving Fortress

2 Zaborg the Thunder Monarch

2 Mobius the Frost Monarch

2 Spirit Reaper

2 Legendary Jujitsu Master

1 Tsukuyomi

3 Gravekeeper’s Spy

1 Gravekeeper’s Guard

2 Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch

3 Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive

1 Sangan

1 Breaker the Magical Warrior



Spells: 12

1 Heavy Storm

2 Soul Exchange

1 Brain Control

2 My Body As A Shield

1 Nobleman of Crossout

1 Dark Hole

1 Mystical Space Typhoon

1 Book of Moon

1 Premature Burial

1 Snatch Steal



Traps: 9

3 Sakuretsu Armor

1 Call of the Haunted

1 Torrential Tribute

2 Bottomless Trap Hole

1 Widespread Ruin

1 Trap Hole

[infernofireblast]

Welcome to Marik's Palace first of all, secondly I like the structure of this Deck, it's lethal, it's fast, it's Chaos in Advanced Format! I personally can't think of anything to change, though Raven may have something in mind.. *dives behind a large rock and braces for impact* I think this Deck will surely take you far at Regionals, we all here at MP wish you godspeed with it. Of course, it might be helpful if you'd also post your Soul Control design, so we could give you a more accurate decision on which to take.

[Raven]

Let me first start with your Chaos Deck.
It is a formidable Deck being well balanced and very flexible. Not to mention with enough fire power to spare.

The High Level Selection is pretty good and see no reason to alter it. However the Low Level do need changing I can see.

I believe you have slumped your Deck with to many supports in terms of monsters some of which you do not need. Aside from stretching your offense. ((In this case to its limit)) They can be too slow a asset to be relied on with this type of Deck on a larger scale.
Magical Merchant: I would replace 1. 2 is pushing it.
Mask of Darkness: Needs to go. I will modify your Spell and Trap selection to decrease your Trap Count anyways.
Battle Chanted Locomotive: These cards has very limited potential at best. There are much better options for speeding your Decks capabilities.
Spirit Reaper: I would replace 1 as it is only a support. If you feel that you need to stall so much then its save to say there is something wrong with your Deck. These designs are best manufactured to deal a constant pressure to the opponents to limit there options steadily threw offensive measures, and thus decrease the odds for them to rebound against you.

Ok that leaves 5 monsters to work with and I now the perfect ones to consider, and yes looking at the Dark Monsters that are available.

Morphing Jar - This is a card I refuse you to pass up. The extent of its advantages can be devastating to the opponent if used correctly. In a regional you will see that the card advantage can play a big roll in determining the outcome against a powerful opponent.
D.D. Assailant - The double edge blade for the opponent. Perfect for helping reduce options in many ways if used consecutively in a Duel. I would add in at least 2.
Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer - A monster that if not used in the Main Deck should be Side Decked. In the new banned list you will still find threats such as the Sacred Phoenix and Zombies mainly. Still on the casual level this cards ability proves most useful.
Cyber Jar - Can be tricky with a opponent that knows what they are doing. However the advantages are great either way.
Archfiend Soldier/Gaint Orc/Vorse Raider/Exerion Universe((Japanese Staple for years, but has lost some work as of late)) - Just a maybe to keep up a decent Offence if room is left.

Now then that should seddle the monsters you have. To your Spell and Trap Cards which a lot of changes can be provided. After seeing your Trap Counts I can see this Deck has a real issue with its playing speed and option base. Sorry to say but this can easily allow the expert players with there aggressive and much faster Decks to simply overwhelm this Deck. Besides I must point out that since Royal Decree has become so much more common. You will find a popular use especially in the upper bracket of skilled Duelists on top of other threats such as Jinzo. Needless to say the use of so many Traps in this type of Deck is a outdated concept. It can prove a costly set back.
Smashing Ground: Great card but there are some better ones I want you to use. So lose 1 of them.
Wide Spread Ruin: Far beyond outdated card to use.
Time Seal: Nothing to really say
Trap Hole: Wont bother
Sakuratsu Armor: You don’t need 3 of them. Take it down to 1.

Ok that leaves 6 to exchange with, and mostly to the regards of Traps.

Here is the following cards I suggest looking into.
Scapegoats - This is a staple you MUST have!
Enemy Controller - The swiss army knife of the card world
Royal Decree - Staple support for a offensive design
Card Destruction - Can be a great support that at least should see use in the Side Deck.
Gaint Trunade - A Tech card respected by the professional. It can become most deadly once used with ether Snatch Steal or Premature Burial.
United we Stand - A power house card for a crippling blow if not a finisher.
Brain Control - Was used in the World Champs Deck afer all.
My Body as a Shield - A card you would be careful to consider. It may be costly but its uses are near endless combined with its quick-play advantage.

Well there you have it. These are all the changes I would incorporate. I hope they become helpful to you.

[Lookinggood]

raven said:

Let me first start with your Chaos Deck.
It is a formidable Deck being well balanced and very flexible. Not to mention with enough fire power to spare.

The High Level Selection is pretty good and see no reason to alter it. However the Low Level do need changing I can see.

I believe you have slumped your Deck with to many supports in terms of monsters some of which you do not need. Aside from stretching your offense. ((In this case to its limit)) They can be too slow a asset to be relied on with this type of Deck on a larger scale.
Magical Merchant: I would replace 1. 2 is pushing it.
Mask of Darkness: Needs to go. I will modify your Spell and Trap selection to decrease your Trap Count anyways.
Battle Chanted Locomotive: These cards has very limited potential at best. There are much better options for speeding your Decks capabilities.
Spirit Reaper: I would replace 1 as it is only a support. If you feel that you need to stall so much then its save to say there is something wrong with your Deck. These designs are best manufactured to deal a constant pressure to the opponents to limit there options steadily threw offensive measures, and thus decrease the odds for them to rebound against you.

Ok that leaves 5 monsters to work with and I now the perfect ones to consider, and yes looking at the Dark Monsters that are available.

Morphing Jar - This is a card I refuse you to pass up. The extent of its advantages can be devastating to the opponent if used correctly. In a regional you will see that the card advantage can play a big roll in determining the outcome against a powerful opponent.
D.D. Assailant - The double edge blade for the opponent. Perfect for helping reduce options in many ways if used consecutively in a Duel. I would add in at least 2.
Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer - A monster that if not used in the Main Deck should be Side Decked. In the new banned list you will still find threats such as the Sacred Phoenix and Zombies mainly. Still on the casual level this cards ability proves most useful.
Cyber Jar - Can be tricky with a opponent that knows what they are doing. However the advantages are great either way.
Archfiend Soldier/Gaint Orc/Vorse Raider/Exerion Universe((Japanese Staple for years, but has lost some work as of late)) - Just a maybe to keep up a decent Offence if room is left.

Now then that should seddle the monsters you have. To your Spell and Trap Cards which a lot of changes can be provided. After seeing your Trap Counts I can see this Deck has a real issue with its playing speed and option base. Sorry to say but this can easily allow the expert players with there aggressive and much faster Decks to simply overwhelm this Deck. Besides I must point out that since Royal Decree has become so much more common. You will find a popular use especially in the upper bracket of skilled Duelists on top of other threats such as Jinzo. Needless to say the use of so many Traps in this type of Deck is a outdated concept. It can prove a costly set back.
Smashing Ground: Great card but there are some better ones I want you to use. So lose 1 of them.
Wide Spread Ruin: Far beyond outdated card to use.
Time Seal: Nothing to really say
Trap Hole: Wont bother
Sakuratsu Armor: You don’t need 3 of them. Take it down to 1.

Ok that leaves 6 to exchange with, and mostly to the regards of Traps.

Here is the following cards I suggest looking into.
Scapegoats - This is a staple you MUST have!
Enemy Controller - The swiss army knife of the card world
Royal Decree - Staple support for a offensive design
Card Destruction - Can be a great support that at least should see use in the Side Deck.
Gaint Trunade - A Tech card respected by the professional. It can become most deadly once used with ether Snatch Steal or Premature Burial.
United we Stand - A power house card for a crippling blow if not a finisher.
Brain Control - Was used in the World Champs Deck afer all.
My Body as a Shield - A card you would be careful to consider. It may be costly but its uses are near endless combined with its quick-play advantage.

Well there you have it. These are all the changes I would incorporate. I hope they become helpful to you.

ok i see where you are going but a few of the changes don't make sense to me. First why play morphing jar or card destruction when dark world is out now all it would do is give my opponent major advantage.
Second is trap hole. incase you havent noticed this format is full of tomato and don zaloog trap hole hits both and bottomless doesn't . the other changes i will look into. thanks for all your help.

[infernofireblast]

True, Dark World Monsters are deadly when Morphing Jar or Card Destruction come into play, but that's why UDE's God invented Compulsory Evacuation Device. Situational true, but in such a situation, you'll be glad you had it to play it, that or your Torrential Tribute. Torrential also goes against Mystic and Don as well. Bottomless may not hit those two, but you really don't want to have a basic Trap Hole down when your opponent pulls out their best Special Summons on you. Aside from this, find room for Compulosry(just 1 of Comp. will take you far), and the others Raven mentioned. These should take you farther, faster. Besides, how mean is it to spring Morphing Jar on your opponent, get their hopes up by letting them summon Goldd-Wu, then springing Torrential or Compulsory on it to tear their dreams to tatters.

[Jaspbur]

While I do think that the Dark World theme has more than enough to deal with compulsory, I have to agree that with the changes Raven suggested. Honestly Dark World will likely NOT be a heavily played theme at regionals any tiome soon.

[Raven]

The Dark World monsters may seem very powerful and in many regards they are. However like every grouped theme out there such as Archfiends, Magician, Harpies, Elemental Heros, and among other name sake themes. They have the issue that for there potential to really come threw. They must have a number of cards working together with them. So if you take away there few advantages they wield. They will just fall all to pieces once pressured against a more consistent Deck Design. This is one reason why Side Decks are such a important factor when playing in Regionals. And another reason why such name sake Decks never are able to stand much of a chance in the Regionals.
BTW Yes Morphing Jar should be main Decked Still. If I am lucky enough I can take a full 4 to 5 cards over the opponent. Which can really make for the end game.

Well that maybe true however your forgetting a important factor if not several. For one take a look at your own monster selection once you fully incorporate my changes. Most of your monsters now carry attacks points beyond that of anything of 1400ATK or less which effectively serves to counter act such monsters. With how you had your selection before with nearly all but weak pointed support monsters then that would be a problem for you, but that should not be a problem anymore. Instead the real threat is your opponents ability to summon powerful key monsters like Cyber Dragons, Jinzo, Sacred Phoenix, Zombie Types, or whatever to the field in order to grab the advantage. Which case Special Summons will be a common threat to contend with. ((So you don’t have much use for Trap Hole anyways)) Also for the sake of the argument you will notice that most Regional Winners across the United States often relied upon Bottomless Trap Holes. So its safe to say they have there uses.