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Post by angel on Sept 12, 2005 17:00:07 GMT -5
Well my favorite character out of everyone has always been Pharaoh Atem. He is so cute and sexy, and.....he's all mine!*hugges Atem*
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Post by Jaspbur on Sept 12, 2005 20:02:07 GMT -5
I'd have to say that my favorite is Odion..........tall....mysterious...and with a silent power.
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Post by Raven on Sept 13, 2005 3:04:46 GMT -5
I'd have to say that my favorite is Odion..........tall....mysterious...and with a silent power. Not to mention you look a lot alike. Anyways to my favorite is none other then Yami Malik. A powerful figure that resembles all that makes up the Darkness of the Human Psyche. I will spare you my praisal of him. That is why I have that posted up at the Sites home page. hometown.aol.com/nightshadeflame/MSR.htmlYes a proud Sadistic that I am. ;D
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joiniouchi
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Yea it is time to duel!!!
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Post by joiniouchi on Sept 25, 2005 8:35:20 GMT -5
Mine is Yami Marik i am his servent!!*Bows down to yaim Marik*
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Post by ishizusan on Oct 21, 2005 8:30:10 GMT -5
My favorites go in this order: 1.Atem 2.Joey 3.Ishizu 4.Marik and Odion 5.Mako Tsunami 6.Shadi
But of course,I like Atem the best.
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Post by infernofireblast on Oct 25, 2005 13:25:30 GMT -5
Easy enough, Yami Bakura. The malevolence of Zorc in all its entirity, reborn into one of the most dangerous, not to mention craftily diabolical Duelists ever to rock the YGO Universe. Tied with Yami Marik, Yami Bakura is the most sinister, most vile, and most downright evil figure to ever grace the world of Yu-Gi-Oh, not to mention his Decks continue to improve and change with each Season showcasing him, showing off far more wicked strategies than the last by far. From his Deck-Out/Burn/Control Deck in Duelist Kingdom that was sinister in itself, to the far more sadistic Fiend Deck he displayed in Battle City, and most recently(I don't think it's aired yet, though) the Zombie/Control/Token Deck he showed off with his rebirth in DOmino against Kaiba first, then Yugi. It saddens me to see GX now, because I know we'll never get to see a villain that evil again.
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slifer91
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The clouds are mysterious.....
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Post by slifer91 on Nov 16, 2005 20:13:16 GMT -5
Top 5 1-Kaiba 2-Yami Bakura 3-Mai Valentine 4-Yami Yugi 5-Odion
I like the classic characters the best, the ones that were at the start of the series.
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Post by Dakura Deoman on Nov 24, 2005 1:15:30 GMT -5
Well my favorite character out of everyone has always been Pharaoh Atem. You see I've never understood these crazy, devoted fans who try to claim that the stuck-up Pharoah is the best character. I mean sure... he's the hero of the show and all that fancy jazz, but to me he is just plain irritating. Maybe it's the fact the dub absolutely butchered his lines time and time again... maybe it's the fact he's one of the good characters of the show... who knows? Still don't like him nor do i understand those who do. Yami Bakura on the other hand is a far better character in my opinion then the pharoah can ever hope to be. Bakura wins his duels with skill... Yami tends to win them due to some extreamly unlikely move which saves him at the very last minute. Yes i know it's a children's show and due to that the good guys always win... but in all seriousness if something similar were to happen in real life then i highly doubt that the stuck-up Pharoah would actually win. You see one of Yami Marik's greatest assests and faults is that no matter what situation he is in, he always manages to scream "I'm a dark, insane, twisted and sadistic psycopath... start running for your lives right about now". Sure Bakura can pull off the same image, but he has enough common sense to blend in shall the situation require it. It happens to be one of the many reasons Bakura actually came closest out of all the villans of the show to actually killing the pharoah. O and the lines... far better then any character in the series. Far better, more sinister and more stylish then any other character on the show. Take the following dub scene from episode 202 for example... and try telling me that Bakura's lines aren't awsome compared to everyone elses. ________________________________________ Akunadin:- Mahad! Is something the matter? Mahad:- The millenium ring! We are in the presance of pure evil. Akunadin:- Oh no! *guard at the doorway suddenly falls to the ground dead*Mahad:- Who goes there? Bakura:- Pardon the interuption... but apparently someone left me of the guest list. Yami:- BAKURA!!! *female dancers scream and run away ((corny i know))*Yami:- What do you want from me? Bakura:- Now is that any way to speak to an old friend your highness? I believe you know what i came here to aquire. Yami:- The millenium items. Bakura:- So you have been paying attention to me all these years haven't you? _________________________________________ Okay, my post is well and truely long enough. Will continue my point if anyone decides to respond to one of my arguments.
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Post by Raven on Nov 24, 2005 5:35:44 GMT -5
I must say that is very accurate Dakura and I have to fully agree with you. Although sadly I have to stay behind my love for the dark, insane, twisted and sadistic psycopath. I am attracted to him do to his strong and over powering persona that he gives off. Although I would go without some of the meaningless monolog he has a since of style to his character that no other can compare. When I first saw him arise in the show I could not help but to be dumbfounded by the fierceness of his character and the limitless potential that he could have to become pretty much the ultimate evil. ((Finally a character that could have the means to become dark enough and twisted enough to fit my sadistical likeness)) After all he is the very essence of Evil born from the torment of Marik. If you want to go into more pasifics the technical form to how Yami Marik could have been born. This is explained in the study of Multiple Personality Syndrome that is nearly always formed from a host mind being subjected to severe shock. At this point the shock is so severe that it overwhelms the host mind that triggers a natural compulsive defense that literally splits the mind into fragments of personalities. Sometimes the original Host Mind will remain intact. However it often does not become the case as the personalities of completely different people emerge from the Host Mind being torn to shreds. Much of this is still not understood and can be subject to theory on most of it. However in this case it is a classic battle of Good vs. Evil in Mariks Mind.
However sadly after the Duel with Bakura everything went down hill. The creators even in the Japanese series butchered the character and made him out to be a complete Idiot in a lot of cases.
I will also agree that Yami Malik ability to go off the deep end and become ever so dramatic jumping in head first into everything is sometimes a fault. He tends not to think things threw and charges into everything with a ego saying that “I am pretty much invincible and you cannot stop me”. This of course led to many mistakes on his part that could have been easily avoided with some common since and some thought. Like for example if he just went threw with the killing of Odion followed after the defeat of Bakura thanks to a weaker Marik. Also the torment and death is his sister at his hands rather then just leaving her alone. Meh.... I did hate that.
However the reason I liked him still even after that. I still bare to mind that he had that potential. I just took my imagination and ran with the idea of what he should have been instead. All the wonderful qualities with the following exceptions. 1. That he still have the style to charge into situations all the same never hesitating to deliver the most horrific damage possible to people and things, and with him always never showing any sings of fear or weakness. Just dominating his surroundings with his overwhelming persona. “However” that he also has the cunning and common since enough to take his time and calculate his situation and for once think ahead. Using a bright enough mind to act accordingly the best way possible.
2. That he uses less pointless and drug out monolog. I mean his rampant and run away speeches of him got pathetic in the later shows. However in the first portions he delivered some clever lines and monolog of his own that was very tasteful. I just wish they kept that and offered more then what was ever shown. I mean it could have been SOOO much better.
3. That he was able to become far more Sadistical and Cruel. I wanted to see him Torment his victims in the most inhuman means possible. This can especially be done in his Duels. I want him to toy and play around with there plead for Death to come take them away. He could have been a lot more aggressive and violent as well.
All these things are what I see him in my own imagination and is why I cannot stop loving his character. I just like to have other people to understand and appreciate how I personally view how he should have become. All these things are displayed especially in my RPG rolls as him.
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Post by Dakura Deoman on Nov 24, 2005 6:38:15 GMT -5
O goody... a debate. Haven't had a decent one for quite some time actually.
Now from what i gather... you happen to like a character which is based on a character from the YGO anime and altered to fit your personal tastes. Which is good and all... infact several of the characters from the yu-gi-oh anime would be quite awsome once you change a thing or two about them.
Think of Malik ((not the Yami)) for example... he'd be a far better character if it weren't for all the bratty "the egyptian god cards will be mine!" and "the power of the pharoah should be mine" speeches. Really... without them he'd sound far less childish in my opinion.
However you see the thing about Bakura is that he just happens to be totally awsome even when you don't change a single thing about him. Sure there's the occasional thing or 2 here and there that could be changed... but even without those changes he still comes across as a totally awsome character in both the Japanese version and the dub.
So to sum things up... your favourite character is a slighly altered version of the original Yami Marik from the anime. However if we were to have both characters 100% realistic from the anime... Bakura is by far the better character.
Or I could sum it up in a more childish manner... BAKURA IS FAR BETTER THEN YAMI MARIK!! ((and I'm afraid you're gonna have a hard time convincing me otherwise)).
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Post by infernofireblast on Nov 24, 2005 19:47:38 GMT -5
"HAHAHAHA, a Fan, amusing.." *cough* I agree, Bakura is a sadistic Son in that he's outlived just about every villain in the Series, not to mention his Decks improve with each Duel as I said before, becoming more sinister, vile, and downright nasty in nature.. Plus his style fits me to a T in every form and fashion.. But even I must agree, Yami Marik also has class above the other villains, such as: Dartz(Archaic retard who's about as low-class in terms of style as Pegasus), Pegasus(Annoying retard with a tendency to make your ears, nose, and eyes bleed all at once with just one syllable..), and don't make me go into GX's Seven Star Assassins.. Yami Marik is also the only one who was able to shut Joey up in the Japanese Manga by stabbing the twit to death with the Rod's concealed dagger(confetti combined with happy dance).... Not to mention the Shadow Games Yami Marik made were works of art. In other words, this debate could go on for years about which Yami villain is best, but for now, both are top-notch to me, especially in their Duel vs. one another(I was drooling over my TV for days in anticipation when it first aired).
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Post by Raven on Nov 26, 2005 1:23:30 GMT -5
O goody... a debate. Haven't had a decent one for quite some time actually. Now from what i gather... you happen to like a character which is based on a character from the YGO anime and altered to fit your personal tastes. Which is good and all... infact several of the characters from the yu-gi-oh anime would be quite awsome once you change a thing or two about them. Think of Malik ((not the Yami)) for example... he'd be a far better character if it weren't for all the bratty "the egyptian god cards will be mine!" and "the power of the pharoah should be mine" speeches. Really... without them he'd sound far less childish in my opinion. However you see the thing about Bakura is that he just happens to be totally awsome even when you don't change a single thing about him. Sure there's the occasional thing or 2 here and there that could be changed... but even without those changes he still comes across as a totally awsome character in both the Japanese version and the dub. So to sum things up... your favourite character is a slighly altered version of the original Yami Marik from the anime. However if we were to have both characters 100% realistic from the anime... Bakura is by far the better character. Or I could sum it up in a more childish manner... BAKURA IS FAR BETTER THEN YAMI MARIK!! ((and I'm afraid you're gonna have a hard time convincing me otherwise)). Well alright I can see that your after a Debate. Regardless it would only be a meaningless and endless argument. Driven on only by the participants ego’s and bervoda with no clear end. You see Fandom is the personal relationship between a person and there Character. In example my Fandom to Yami Marik is not simply based around in Admiration. It is also based on a far more personal level. Many similarities exist between the life I have lived and the pretrial of Marik all the way past Yami Mariks Birth.((Most are indirect of course)). However I will leave it at that. Since this Topic of debate would be based on a person(s) personal view or Fandom relating to there character. Its safe to say that any argument can be subject to no real conclusion at all. You could never sway me from my Fandom anymore then I could sway you. Thus is the Paradox that is formed. No point to it......
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Post by Dakura Deoman on Nov 26, 2005 4:00:07 GMT -5
Where to start... both Raven and infernofireblast happen to have some very good points. How about i start with addressing Raven't assessment on fandom...
In a way i feel you are both right and wrong about the matter. It's a tad hard-ish to explain... but I'll try, and hopefully as i go along it will become easier.
You see in life, people tend to become fans of various people that they wish they were like. They observe the person, admire the style and grace ((or lack of it)) that the person uses to handle the various problems and situations they come across... and as a result they then start to wish they were more like the person, or could spend a day as the person they admire. However sadly for most people, fandom doesn't end there.
A lot of people then start to take a bit of the persons style and outlooks on various matters and start to make it their own. For most it's nice and subtle... maybe with the fan starting to use various sayings that the person may use... maybe with the person making minor alterations to their dress style so they look more like the person they admire... as i said, nice and subtle. Heck, for a lot of fans they don't even realize they are doing this... although for the occasional sickenly devoted fan it's a very contience thing ((aka some really devoted Yami Bakura fan i know decided to go out and spend over $1,000 getting a custom made Millenium Ring for herself... very sad and pathetic, i know)).
Yes a person generally doesn't become a fan of someone that is completely different to themself. Usually they do spot the occasional simularity between themself and the person they admire... most likely either some similar background history or personality traits. However on the other hand a person doesn't become a fan of someone who is exactly like themself in every single degree and who handles absolutely every single situation in exactly the same way. Infact if a person did become a fan of somebody exactly like themself in every single manner... esentually the'd be admiring themself. Okay, so maybe some people in this world actually do have an ego large enough to admire themselves like that... but nobody who has posted in this topic so far seems like the person to do that.
As i said towards the beginning... it's a tad hard for me to explain everything clearly. However think of a teenage girl who is a fan of say... Britney Spears ((*is currently gagging at the thought*)), a person who is a fan of a particular movie star, a person who is a fan of a fictional character... and just for kicks think of the millions of Christians who admire and wish to be just like Jesus and I'm pretty sure you'll see my point.
With most of the points I've made so far i could go into a lot more detail... but this post is long enough as it is so I'll wait and see how people respond. But until then i feel the need to address the point that Raven made and infernofireblast hinted at... that this argument is essentually pointless.
Okay, so maybe you are both right and this argument is entirely pointless since it's extreamly unlikely that people are going to change thier minds. However on the other hand, not only does having a non-serious argument such as this encourage activity on the forum... it forces a person to actually think about their various opinions and ideas. It makes it so the topic isn't limited to posts such as "my favourite is Pharoah Atem" or "here's a list of my top 5 favourite characters"... therefore making it far more interesting for onlookers to read.
So yes, entirely pointless in the end but still o-so-very fun to have and participate in... especially if the people you're arguing with use more then 4 brain cells when responding. Besides, i happen to like having an almost impossible challange... such as trying to make the various people on this forum such as Raven realize that Yami Bakura is and always will be better then Yami Marik. Impossible and never likely to happen... but it's still fun trying.
But fine... maybe as a 17 year old teenage girl i happen to be entirely wrong about everything and I'm just pointlessly rambling on and on about matters i couldn't hope to understand. However if you believe that to be the case please explain to me exactly in what way my thoughts, logic and observations happen to be wrong... because i get sick of going to places and expressing my opinions on various unimportant matters just to have people turn around and flame me going "you're wrong" ((in a far harsher and impolite manner then that)) and leaving it at just that.
EDIT:- *looks at post* Oops... bit bigger then i was aiming for.
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Post by infernofireblast on Nov 26, 2005 22:30:12 GMT -5
It'ss quite clear Dakura that you like Bakura quite a bit.. I myself have driven myself nearly insane trying to become a clear Bakura persona in my Duels and outside of them, moreso than most fans of the ever-hating Tomb-Robber. I enjoy a good debate here and there about who's better than who, no reason to think of yourself in the manner you described. Heck, I even debate with some of my friends from time to time about who would win in a fight between Spider-Man and Grifter of WildC.A.T.s(something so pathetically sad it bared repeating..). Just remember, Bakura and Marik have more class than any villain ever to grace or disgrace the Show. It's not wrong to like one over the other, just remember, each one has a Pro and a Con that makes them unique over the other.
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Post by Dakura Deoman on Nov 26, 2005 23:47:40 GMT -5
Agreed... Bakura and Marik most defently have far more class then every other villan to grace the YGO anime ((including GX)). Also looking back at yesterdays post... it's most defently not the best I've done.
It was mostly inspired by your post actually infernofireblast. You see a lot of people i know from the yugioh-legends forum tend to compare me to Bakura... just like they do with you here. I realized that we can't both be exactly like Bakura... because not only would that be exceptionally boring, it's just not humanly possible.
One thought then led to another. I mean I haven't had my whole town slaughtered before my eyes just so the Australian government could gain more power. I haven't been in the position where i must learn to steal in order to survive. I could give many more examples... but i don't particually want a post as lenghty as yesterdays.
Basically after a few hours of pointless brooding i came to the realization that people can't really claim they are exactly like their favourite characters... instead they are just rather devoted fans who tend to copy the persons style. I mean not only is a claim like "I like Yami because i am just like him in every single way" virtually impossible... in a way it's also saying "I admire myself".
Now please don't take the above in the wrong way infernofireblast and Raven... I'm not trying to have a go at either of you. Heck, if it wasn't for infernofireblast's post and a couple of hours of pointless brooding I would have more then likely posted something along the lines of "I'm similar to Bakura in tonnes of various ways". However after thinking carefully about it... I'm now proud to be honestly able to say that I'm not exactly the same as anyone else in this whole world ((fictional or real)). I have my own unique style, outlooks, beliefs, attitude and grace ((or rather lack of it at times)) and I'm damm proud of it.
Maybe brooding is good for something after all. Anyways for the meantime.... long live the pointless arguments such as "Bakura vrs Marik" and "Spider-Man vrs Grifter of WildC.A.T.S".
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